Transcript: Episode 018 | Aries New Moon and a Kerflooey World
March 23, 2020
Jen: Welcome to the Big Sky Astrology podcast, with April Elliott Kent and me, producer and cohost Jen Braun. Hey friends, Jen here! Today is March 23rd, 2020. And with me, of course, is someone who’s an appropriate “social distance” away from me, but verbally nearby and emotionally close at hand – my friend, astrologer April Elliott Kent. How are you doing, April?
April: I’m doing okay, Jen. I’m doing my social distancing here with Saturn in Aquarius. Friendships like ours are not impacted in the same way that real world ones are. So delightful to see you. You sound very peppy, may I say. Very upbeat!
Jen: Well thank you. You look as close as ever! You look as close to me as you normally ever do.
April: That’s true. You would have no idea that the entire world is completely upside down from the last time we spoke. Would you?
April: How are you coping there in Minneapolis?
Jen: I was doing pretty well with all of the anxiety and stress until our kitchen faucet went kerflooey last night.
April: How did it go?
Jen: That sent me over the edge. Kerflooey.
April: Kerflooey. Okay. I’m sorry to hear that.
Jen: Or more appropriately drip, drip, drip.
April: You have said that your father is a plumber, so is that a technical term that you picked up from him, kerflooey?
Jen: That is not a technical term. No.
Jen: And being a plumber’s daughter, I don’t have the skills, I have to say. Although I can snake out a sink if I have to. But luckily, I do have a couple of handy niblings and one of them is coming over today to fix it for us. You know, nibling is my gender-neutral term for niece or nephew.
April: Yes. Well excellent. And aren’t they helpful little people to come help out auntie Jen?
Jen: Super helpful. They’re awesome.
April: Well, good luck with that. Because I was telling you that we had a planned power outage overnight and that was the last thing that we really felt that we needed at a time like this. But yes, I woke up this morning and everything was back to normal, so I can’t really complain. But yes, the anxiety and the tension has been ramping up a little bit, I must say.
Jen: It’s been a lot and a lot of people are feeling it.
April: Yes. You said that you might have some thoughts for people in that regard.
Jen: I thought it might be helpful to talk a little bit about anxiety and stress and perhaps what some people can do to help. What I’ve learned is that usually anxiety is future focused. A lot of people are worried about: What will become of them? Will they stay healthy? Do they have enough to get by should they need to self-quarantine or stay home? Some people don’t have homes. Some people’s kids, the only meal they get is when they go to school, and schools are getting canceled. So a lot of people are feeling stressed out.
Jen: What happens during times of anxiety and stress is that the “lizard brain” takes over. The amygdala.
April: Okay. I’m picturing the Geico gecko about now.
Jen: Yes. Exactly.
Jen: Amygdala is Greek for almond. And it’s an almond shape area of the brain that takes over. And it’s the part of the brain that’s responsible for fight or flight. It’s responsible for fear and it’s responsible for freezing up. And so, what happens during times of stress is that stress takes us out of prefrontal-cortex mode. And that’s the part of the brain that’s responsible for logic and empathy and creativity. And stress puts us in that fight-or-flight mode, that lizard brain mode.
So one way to help calm yourself is to connect to the here and now. And that’s why techniques around mindfulness and being present are so important. Because when you recognize the present moment, it helps slow down your thinking and it helps you kind of detach from that fight-or-flight mode.
Jen: And there’s many ways to do that to ground yourself in the present. I can think back to a couple of episodes April, you and I have talked about – one episode featured a breathing technique and one a grounding technique. And I can link those in the show notes. Those are free, easy things that people can do to help bring them out of lizard-brain mode and put them back into prefrontal-cortex mode. But you can also just do simple things like counting your breaths. Inhale on one, exhale on two, inhale on three, exhale on four… up to a count of 10 and then start over.
Other things. If you have a pet, you can cuddle your dog, you can cuddle your cat, you can notice the feel of their fur on your skin. That brings you into the present.
April: Spike is not going to stand still for that! I’ll just tell you that right now. But it’s a good point generally.
Jen: My dogs are all over that, so I’m lucky that way, I guess.
If people are comfortable financially – and I do realize that a lot of people aren’t – there’s an app called “Headspace,” a popular app. Have you heard of it?
April: I don’t think so, unless you told me about it.
Jen: I don’t think I have. It’s a fantastic meditation app. And we’re not getting paid anything by the way, for me to mention this. But if Headspace would like to sponsor…
April: Welcome new sponsor, Headspace! We haven’t had an imaginary sponsor in sometimes, so.
Jen: It has been awhile since we’ve had a free imaginary sponsor!
April: Well, that sounds good. I like all of those suggestions.
Jen: You know, the point is just to stop and notice and breathe. It just slows down your brain so you can gain some clarity and find solutions that are productive.
April: Right. And the irony of it of course is Saturn’s just gone into Aquarius. And as we were talking about last week, that’s a very future-oriented sign.
April: I think we’ve all been kind of gearing up and ready to start, to hit the ground running with regard to future plans. And think, “Wow, what do I want my world to look like in the next few years?”
April: And this is in stark contradiction to that, even though Saturn is about boundaries and Aquarius is about socializing. And what first springs to mind, “Wow, what a perfect transit for social distancing.”
April: But really, like I point out in my column for last week, Saturn-in-Aquarius people are some of the most social and collectivist people that I’ve ever known. So the potential is there to grow actually quite stronger collectively. Look, you and I have become, I think, pretty good friends and we’ve never met in person.
April: And we’re kind of living in an age where that’s much more possible. But it is very ironic to think that at the time when we’re starting to finally think, “Wow, we can get beyond all of this Capricorn chaos and move towards a future that looks a little brighter.” That ironically the thing that will probably pull us back and mellow us out a little bit is to stay where we are right now.
April: And I think part of that is realizing that the future is not some abstract thing that’s out there waiting for us to catch up with it. And this has always been my feeling about astrology and particularly when it comes to prediction. Because people have this sense that the future is static, and it’s already formulated and we’re on a timeline and we’re just catching up to these things. And that has never really gone with my worldview. My worldview has always been one of, we are co-creating our future right now and in order perhaps to have the kind of future that we want moving forward during this increasingly Aquarian time that we’re moving into… it’s about mastering the present because in the present is the seed of the future. And that’s the whole concept of astrology. The things that are born in a moment of time have the qualities of that moment in time. And through the years we see that come to fruition, we see that seed grow and become what it was meant to be.
Jen: That’s really beautiful.
April: And I like what you’re saying on a couple of different levels. Because it goes back to something I wrote about at the Virgo Full Moon.. telling the story of how my mother always told me when things got overwhelming, “Just clean one drawer.”
April: Because if you do something, you get the sense that things are manageable, if you can do one thing. So, we’re all looking for our coping techniques. And thank you for sharing those ideas because it’s really useful to me. Because I was sharing with you before we started recording… I have to tell you, I’ve been pretty rattled. And part of that’s because I’m in a little more of a vulnerable population. Because I’ve had some respiratory issues in the past and frankly, I’m not getting any younger. So, I’ve got that concern on top of all the other stuff that everybody’s coping with.
April: But boy, I’m sharing your concerns, because I was really thinking about that as I was sending out a mailing last week… about how many people are, for instance… even if they’re in a situation where they’re not going to be able to work at home but their kids aren’t able to go to school, what are they going to do? And it’s going to impact all of the beloved businesses in my neighborhood that we patronize and all kinds of things. So, we have who we are all in this together and we do have to kind of hold fast to each other and trust each other and help each other and all of that.
Jen: For sure. I like what you said about, “What do you have control over?” Because that can be really important and really helpful. There’s all this stuff going on outside of us that we really have no control over. But if you can just look at the things on your list that you do have control over, that can help. You might have control over cleaning one drawer, but you can’t control whether… it’s snowing right now in Minneapolis. Holy cow! The snow is coming down!
April: Is it? Awesome!
Jen: I have no control over that.
Jen: It’s big, chunky, fat flakes dropping from the sky. Wow!
April: I love that!
Jen: So I have no control over that. But I could go clean a drawer!
April: Exactly. Exactly!
Jen: And there are, by the way, I should throw out… there are free meditation apps if you have an iPhone or any kind of a smart phone.
April: Sure. And stuff on YouTube. Free meditation…
Jen: Totally. Yes.
April: …sessions and all kinds of stuff. So, take care of yourselves out there and take care of yourselves emotionally and mentally and in every way. This could be a long haul. We have no way of knowing. And it’s a marathon, not a sprint.
Jen: Yes. And notice what you’re grateful for too. You have control over that and that’s something that would ground you into the present.
April: That is true. I am grateful for you.
Jen: Ah, I didn’t know you’d say that. I am grateful for you.
April: And I’m grateful for everybody that listens to our little venture here.
April: And I mean, there’s so much to be grateful for. So that’s always a good reminder. Okay, well?
Jen: Astrologically, let’s see what’s going on here! I should just be quiet so we can play the Moonwatch theme!
April: Do it!
April: Every time I hear that Moonwatch theme, it makes me think, do you remember that old video of dramatic chipmunk?
Jen: I don’t. No.
April: Oh my gosh. I have to send this to you!
Jen: Yes, please.
April: There’s this chipmunk kind of looking over his shoulder and this dramatic music plays. Yes, that’s our Moonwatch theme!
Jen: Oh, I think I do know what you’re talking about. Do send it to me though.
April: I will, and we’ll link it in the show notes too, because everyone should enjoy dramatic chipmunk. So, Moonwatch, so it’s another New Moon. We’re racking them up here.
Jen: How many is that for us?
April: Oh, well we started with Sagittarius. Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces…
Jen: She’s counting on her fingers everybody. You can’t see that, but I can.
April: That’s what fingers are for!
Jen: So how many is it?
April: This is the fifth one…
April: …that we’ve covered on the podcast.
Jen: And we know you like the number five.
April: I really do. It’s my favorite number. And so this falls at 4° 12 minutes of Aries on March 24th in the wee hours in the morning. And the Sabian symbol for this one is, “A triangle with wings.”
Jen: I love that.
April: When I first started referring to the Sabian symbols or I’d run across them when other people wrote about them, I would get very impatient and a little irritated with them. Because to me they sounded stupid and like I couldn’t make sense of them. It was symbols like this that used to trip me up. Because what the heck do you do with that? A triangle with wings.
Jen: I like it a lot.
April: Well, I do too. And now I get a picture. Tell me the picture that you get with it.
Jen: Oh, I have a million pictures in my head all at the same time. I picture a pyramid. I think of things that come in three, like the Trinity, the Three Stooges…
Jen: I think of the Greek symbol Delta, which is a triangle and means change. I think of a chrysalis and April knows this, but Joanie and I have raised some monarchs. A chrysalis actually looks a little bit like a triangle. A monarch butterfly emerges and then it hangs there, and it dries its wings and it looks like a triangle as it’s hanging there.
But there’s other things I think of too, like pie. A piece of pie is a triangle.
April: That’s the best!
Jen: Oh! A tortilla chip!
Jen: Aren’t you glad you asked me?
April: I really am! Triangles are our friends. Well, when I think of a triangle, of course I think of a trine aspect in astrology and all of the signs of the same element. There are three to each element, and they form trine aspects which are the 120° or one third of the horoscopic wheel.
April: A trine to me always talk about forces that are unfettered, things that just move forward without impediment and at great speed. So, this symbol to me especially falling in the sign of Aries, which is very energetic and very forward moving, this symbol really speaks to me of things moving quickly, people being a little bit impulsive. Because the Sun at this New Moon is not yet within orb of all of the squares that it’ll make to those Capricorn planets, which we talked about last week when we were talking about the Equinox. That’s going to come just a little bit later in the month, but for now it’s just feeling its oats; the New Moon point in the chart for the New Moon is not making any really terrible aspects except it is square the Lunar Nodes, which happens on the previous day, March 23rd.
April: So, I thought that might be worth talking about, because this puts us at the midpoint of the eclipse year. If you’re having eclipses as we have been, that have been falling in the signs of Capricorn and Cancer – and we know that the Sun is in those signs in late December into January and then late June into July – when the Sun or the New Moon specifically are in Aries or Libra, what we get is a triggering effect because that means the New Moon is squaring, for instance, the Solar Eclipse at 4° of Capricorn, which was on Christmas day or boxing day depending on where you live. And then, at the summer solstice…
Jen: This coming summer, you mean?
April: Yes, this coming summer on June 21st, there’s a Solar Eclipse at 0° of Cancer. This is a New Moon that’s activating both of those eclipse points. So, what you’ll want to do is look in your chart for if you had any planets between especially 0° and 4° of Aries, Cancer, Libra or Capricorn, because those are really getting stirred up by this New Moon. Because it’s bringing with it the energy of those eclipses, the ones before and the one coming up.
Jen: So the story that was started on the 25th or 26th of December is having a turning point right now?
April: Yes, that’s exactly how that works. And it’ll work on the other end too, in the fall, where get New Moons in Libra.
April: So, although people are really awake to eclipses, a week or two around the time that they’re happening and everyone’s writing about them and talking about them and thinking about them… we tend to overlook these very volatile points within the annual cycle of the nodes and eclipses that say,
“Yes, that stuff is really alive right now and we’re feeling compelled to act on changes that were maybe simmering under the surface back around Christmas time.” And things we’re looking forward to come the summer and plans that we’re making for a few months from now and thinking, “Hmm, what do I need to be doing now?” Right now a lot of us are making a lot of big adjustments because things are getting canceled. And people are canceling their travel and conferences they’re going to and all kinds of things. It’s a very interesting moment that we find ourselves in.
April: I will give a quick plug for my Moonshadow eclipse report.
Jen: I was going to plug your Moonshadow eclipse report!
April: I anticipated you!
Jen: I was going to say, “April, doesn’t know I’m going to say this, but she has a fantastic eclipse report that you can order at bigskyastrology.com.” Tell us about it.
April: Yes, it’s called “Followed by a MoonShadow” and it covers three years worth of eclipses. And it just kind of follows them through your chart. You can see eclipses in different houses of your chart in aspect to planets where the cycle has previously played out in your life and it can be helpful. So it’s something that people might want to look into. Just go to bigskyastrology.com, look under eclipses in the main menu and you’ll see it there.
Jen: And that’s something you can’t get anywhere else because she created this, so it’s not sold on other websites. You can only get it at bigskystrategy.com.
April: It’s exclusive.
Jen: It is exclusive. Let me ask a question about the New Moon.
Jen: The sign of Aries is about initiating, and New Moons are about initiating. Does that mean that this is a New Moon especially that wants us to take action?
April: It’s interesting to think of New Moons as signaling action.
April: I’m not sure they do.
Jen: I guess it’s about… starting something, maybe.
April: I understand when you say it’s initiating. That doesn’t always show up on the outside, I think. I’m just trying to differentiate between them because it’s more that you’re at a starting point, but you don’t necessarily always take action at a New Moon because the idea of what you want to do isn’t fully formulated yet. So it’s like you’re in the chrysalis, you know?
April: That’s the energy of the New Moon and Aries is an action-oriented sign. The image I like to get from the New Moon in Aries is this is the end of winter time going into spring and when you first go out into your garden to try to plant some things, think of the hard work that you have to do to prepare your garden.
April: You have to get something really heavy and really sharp to dig into the soil, and Aries is ruled by Mars, which has an association with sharp objects and tools.
April: It sounds funny, but I mean it’s about the plowing. It’s about the hard work of tilling the soil and getting ready to receive the seeds that you’re going to put in. So it is very action oriented, I think, that Aries New Moon… in a way that not all New Moons are.
Jen: Okay. Perhaps a better way to say it would have been, they’re both sort of at the starting line. You’re a runner running a race and you’re at the starting line.
April: Absolutely true.
Jen: Aries, you’re there. And New Moons, you’re there. You’re at the starting line.
April: Yes. So it is kind of a souped up New Moon in that way. And it’s very close of course to the Equinox. It’s just a few days after that gives it another little oomph as well. And again, we’re back to that idea of frustration because this is the spirit that we’re all responding to inside, but the healthy outlets for that are being inhibited at the moment. And that speaks probably to all those Capricorn planets that eventually will be squared by the Aries. The atmosphere is not one that makes it easy to go out and be very active and do lots of things and really be a mover and shaker in the world.
April: So it’s a little frustrating but it goes back to, “Well what can you do?” I mean maybe literally start a garden. That’s what we’re thinking. Because we’re like, yes, getting produce is kind of a pain at the moment.
April: Our diets very centered around that.
Jen: If you’re somewhere where there is still snow on the ground, you can plant seeds…
April: Yes. And germinate things.
Jen: …in your house.
April: Yes. In your terrarium. In your little window garden.
April: So that is the Sun and the New Moon and the Lunar Nodes.
Jen: Very good.
April: We also have in gentler news, our friend Venus, still very lovely and languid and life-affirming in Taurus. She will be making two different trines to a couple of our Capricorn friends, Jupiter and Pluto.
April: On March 27th in the evening, so it’s March 28th everywhere else, Venus will make a trine to Jupiter. And I just picked a little paragraph – just a line – from my book on astrological transits to get some inspiration for this. And what I had written was, “Your desire to experience something new,” which would be Jupiter “is briefly awakened by an appealing person, social opportunity or piece of art.” And that’s Venus.
April: Remember that Venus’s aspects by transit are very fast. We’re not talking about something like Saturn going into Aquarius that will be influencing us for two and a half, three years. We’re talking about three days of feeling Venus with Jupiter, but you get Venus and Jupiter together, they’re considered the most benefic planets. Venus is called the lesser benefic, Jupiter’s called the greater benefic. And when they get together then presumably the forces of good and good luck and pleasure are accentuated.
Jen: And generosity.
April: Generosity. Absolutely.
Jen: People could use a little of that right now.
April: And on a practical level – because Venus and Jupiter are both an earth signs – they say it’s all good and well to send as the cliché goes, “hopes and prayers” or whatever it is. But it’s really important, especially at times like these, to in some practical way, reach out to people in generosity and fellowship.
Generosity and fellowship, Jen!
Jen: Yes, I was with my friends this past weekend and they enjoyed how you went with it.
April: That’s right. I like it. It’s a fantastic word.
Jen: That’s awesome.
April: Well the other aspect of Venus – she will be making as a trine to Pluto. And that is also on March 28th in the evening, just about eight o’clock. So the thing that I wrote in my book about that was not quite as uplifting and I think I’d like to revise it, but it says “This is the transit that got Persephone into trouble…”
Jen: Oh boy.
April: …standing in a middle looking Venus enchanting, she caught the attention of Pluto who pulled her down into the underworld.” This is a transit when something lovely awakens your least lovely impulses. And I’m not going to back away from that completely. We have been seeing people act pretty badly in the presence of toilet paper for instance.
Jen: And hand sanitizer.
April: And hand sanitizer.
Jen: You must let us know about Persephone, because people might not know that story.
April: The story of Persephone with Pluto is where we get the idea of one half of the year being dark and one half of the year being light. The story is that Persephone was traipsing along and caught the idea of Pluto, the god of the underworld, who’s the wealthiest of the gods, a very powerful god, but lives in a place that’s not real great. He’s in the underworld. There’s fire and shredded clothes.
Jen: Hades isn’t a fun place to hang out.
April: No, but he’s the god of all the wealth that is found underground. Diamonds and oil and precious gems and all of the rest of it. So that’s why we know there’s great value to Pluto and to Pluto’s experiences and processes, but they always don’t feel that great when we’re going through them. My colleague and friend Michelle Gould said something in a talk. It really struck me the way she said it. She said, “If you have Pluto in aspect to a planet by transit or in your birth chart or anything, its job is to burn away anything that is not in keeping with the nature of the planet that it’s contacting.” So Pluto with Venus, the two of them together is Pluto is burning off anything that doesn’t look like love.
April: It’s a little bit reversed here because it’s Venus coming to Pluto. So what this is is Venus coming into the underworld and making it more lovely and more enchanting and more beautiful. If you look at it from Pluto’s point of view, it definitely was something lovely coming into the environment – Persephone – that awakened his least lovely impulses. He wanted to possess her. He abducted her, kept her prisoner.
So we can go one of two ways with Pluto and Venus, and one of them is really unpleasant, really negative. But by accentuating the Venus part of it, which is really the hallmark of this particular fleeting transit, is to say, “Bring what is lovely to the parts of life that are very trying.”
April: And that’s more music and its more beauty. It’s nice food. It’s, if you don’t feel comfortable getting together with people in person right now… it’s getting on Skype or Zoom and having calls with people that are really important to you or God forbid picking up the phone, which none of us does anymore.
April: I hate talking on the phone, I really hate it. And if somebody with the Moon in Gemini doesn’t like talking on the phone, you know, we’re at a weird point in history.
Jen: April has Moon in Gemini. For those of you who didn’t know.
April: I do.
So those are my thoughts. What were you thinking about this Venus?
Jen: One thing is that if there’s a way to channel this focus that you can have with Venus/Pluto into a way that helps others right now, that would be really lovely.
April: It’s always lovely. It’s always a good impulse.
Jen: Especially right now.
April: Well, trying times tell us what people are made of.
April: And when we are driven by fear we don’t always act the best.
Jen: It’s lizard brain.
April: It’s lizard brain. And that’s what we have to overcome.
April: Part of Venus, especially in Taurus, is that thing about trusting the world that we live in. And the world has shown us it’s bad side again and again. We know that bad things can happen in the world. But Venus in Taurus is that part of us that trusts that the world can be a beautiful sane place and capable of providing great pleasure to the experience of being alive. Otherwise just the entire process of being alive becomes an obstacle course. Just a series of unpleasant events that we have to overcome. And Venus says, “Well, no, there should be something about it that’s very pleasurable.” And that’s what is worth celebrating this week as Venus is making these nice aspects.
Because the Sun, sure enough in Aries, will make squares to those Capricorn planets in the next couple of weeks and there will be obstacles and there are things that we’ll have to work very hard to overcome. But Venus right here right now is saying, “Okay, but remember that there’s this other side of life and things that are worth enjoying and luxuriating in.”
Jen: The here and now.
April: I’m thinking a bath would be super nice.
Jen: You should do it.
April: I think I will.
Jen: It’s only recently that I’ve started thinking about how, you know, you mentioned Venus coming to Pluto versus the other way around. And that it’s really Venus bringing the aspect versus Pluto bringing the aspect to Venus. That’s just a new way for me as an intermediate student of astrology to start thinking about things. And it’s really helpful.
April: Good. Yes, it was helpful for me too, to put it together in that way because the feeling’s very different.
April: Pluto as we know, is an aspect that’s going to take three years if it’s making contact with Venus in your birth chart. The Venus coming to Pluto is a quick one and it can trigger Pluto. But since the aspect this week is a trine, it’s much more of the nature of hopefully something nice that disarms our more difficult impulses.
Jen: You know, let’s hold hands instead of slapping each other or do an elbow bump…
Jen: …whatever the appropriate social distancing thing is.
April: Well, you know the god of the underworld fell in love with Persephone. That Pluto side of us can be disarmed and made less beastly. It’s like, its just Beauty and the Beast. That’s a retelling of the Persephone myth, if that’s helpful for people.
So here’s an elbow bump to you, my friend, far away at a social distance.
April: Well, that’s everything we have on our show sheet. Do you think we’ve covered it all…?
Jen: I think we’ve done it. Yes.
April: We’ve done it. Hooray! Well, thank you once again for listening to The Big Sky Astrology Podcast. We come to you first thing in the morning, every Monday. If you like what you’re hearing, we hope that you will subscribe so that you don’t miss any episodes. You can read the show notes and full transcripts of each episode at our website, bigskyastropod.com. There, you can also leave comments about each episode.
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April: Aw, Jen!
Jen: How about that?
April: Listen to how Venusian you’re being! I love that! I second that emotion!
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